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	<title>Comments on: DM Chronicles, Session 7: Of Performing Crunch and Norming Fluff, Part 2</title>
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	<description>Like Hanging at the Cash Register of your Favorite Game Store</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL!  

Point well taken!

Actually the re-fluffing technique you refer makes for a great DM technique!

Cursed Giant indeed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL!  </p>
<p>Point well taken!</p>
<p>Actually the re-fluffing technique you refer makes for a great DM technique!</p>
<p>Cursed Giant indeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cayzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cayzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinique calls it a lamia, but Cayzle calls it a yuan-ti! Unless it's part feline, it's no lamia in my book!

:-)

Which raises an interesting question of player expectations. A cruel and clever DM can spice up mundane encounters by renaming monsters. "Mutant Kobolds" for lizardfolk, "Fire-breathing Wyverns" for red dragons, "Cursed Giants" for goblins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinique calls it a lamia, but Cayzle calls it a yuan-ti! Unless it&#8217;s part feline, it&#8217;s no lamia in my book!</p>
<p> <img src='http://chattydm.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Which raises an interesting question of player expectations. A cruel and clever DM can spice up mundane encounters by renaming monsters. &#8220;Mutant Kobolds&#8221; for lizardfolk, &#8220;Fire-breathing Wyverns&#8221; for red dragons, &#8220;Cursed Giants&#8221; for goblins.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2007/12/06/dm-chronicles-session-7-of-performing-crunch-and-norming-fluff-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham is right...  

If you define a Wemic as a humanoid/lionine centauric creature, the Lamia Matriarch is actually Paizo's adaptation of WotC's Lamia Noble:

A 1/2 human female 1/2 Serpent creature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham is right&#8230;  </p>
<p>If you define a Wemic as a humanoid/lionine centauric creature, the Lamia Matriarch is actually Paizo&#8217;s adaptation of WotC&#8217;s Lamia Noble:</p>
<p>A 1/2 human female 1/2 Serpent creature.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham&#124;ve4grm</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2007/12/06/dm-chronicles-session-7-of-performing-crunch-and-norming-fluff-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham&#124;ve4grm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cayzle - wrong type of Lamia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cayzle - wrong type of Lamia.</p>
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		<title>By: Cayzle</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2007/12/06/dm-chronicles-session-7-of-performing-crunch-and-norming-fluff-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Cayzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, "Lamia Matriarch" is just another word for wemic! But no one wants to fight sweet wonderful wemics, so we call then lamia when we want to kill them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, &#8220;Lamia Matriarch&#8221; is just another word for wemic! But no one wants to fight sweet wonderful wemics, so we call then lamia when we want to kill them.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2007/12/06/dm-chronicles-session-7-of-performing-crunch-and-norming-fluff-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I can guarantee that players would love it.  They agreed that it was a fun rule... 

But like you said, Cixi's build and loot stretches the base on which the rule is based upon way past it's limit.  

As a thought experiment on the forums (now secretly opened) we should check 9th level builds of vanilla Min/Maxed Critical Hit  builds (and Rogues).

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I can guarantee that players would love it.  They agreed that it was a fun rule&#8230; </p>
<p>But like you said, Cixi&#8217;s build and loot stretches the base on which the rule is based upon way past it&#8217;s limit.  </p>
<p>As a thought experiment on the forums (now secretly opened) we should check 9th level builds of vanilla Min/Maxed Critical Hit  builds (and Rogues).</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham&#124;ve4grm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham&#124;ve4grm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a 2d6+dex damage, 15-20x4 ranged critical wasn't really considered when I wrote that variant up.  (The +X to AC for confirmations wouldn't have worked either, based on what you told me.)  But that kind of crit range/multiplier/damage breaks crits in general, anyways (especially since those wights have higher HP than most CR 9 creatures to begin with).

I do wish you had encountered some crits from the more standard characters, so I could get some playtest feedback.  But oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a 2d6+dex damage, 15-20&#215;4 ranged critical wasn&#8217;t really considered when I wrote that variant up.  (The +X to AC for confirmations wouldn&#8217;t have worked either, based on what you told me.)  But that kind of crit range/multiplier/damage breaks crits in general, anyways (especially since those wights have higher HP than most CR 9 creatures to begin with).</p>
<p>I do wish you had encountered some crits from the more standard characters, so I could get some playtest feedback.  But oh well.</p>
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