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	<title>Comments on: Mini-Crunch: The Bebilith Revisited</title>
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	<description>Like Hanging at the Cash Register of your Favorite Game Store</description>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-6765</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it because your Character has a Dex Score of 24?

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it because your Character has a Dex Score of 24?</p>
<p> <img src='http://chattydm.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TCDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-6744</link>
		<dc:creator>TCDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatchoo talkin' bout, Willis?  I wear Padded Armor +5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatchoo talkin&#8217; bout, Willis?  I wear Padded Armor +5.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for late response Lone and Shadow... I had a post to write before doing the rest of the fun stuff.

Lone: What made you think it would be about invisibles?  I'm confused!

Shadow145: Yes I really liked Mike's re-designs. I only used the Rust Monster, although to very good effect!  Have you seen the new stats for the Pit Fiend?  I can't wait to DM one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for late response Lone and Shadow&#8230; I had a post to write before doing the rest of the fun stuff.</p>
<p>Lone: What made you think it would be about invisibles?  I&#8217;m confused!</p>
<p>Shadow145: Yes I really liked Mike&#8217;s re-designs. I only used the Rust Monster, although to very good effect!  Have you seen the new stats for the Pit Fiend?  I can&#8217;t wait to DM one!</p>
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		<title>By: shadow145</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1620</link>
		<dc:creator>shadow145</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mearls monster makeovers were excellent.  I used his variant beholder 

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20061028a

from that series and variations of it quite a bit in a high-level beholder adventure I ran (which also utilized the Complete Guide to Beholders - awesome book).  Changing up antimagic, eliminating facing, and adding that extra initiative turn really helped make it easier to run without taking away from the feel of the creature.  It also completely wrecked my players preconcieved notions of what a beholder could do, and I always enjoy messing with their heads a little bit.  

I think the monster makeover articles provide an insight into Mearl's mindset of 4th edition - make monsters easier to run and speed up combat.  I think that extra initiative turn is similar to what they have the new 4E dragon doing from what little I've seen of it.  I wouldn't be surprised if these makeovers turned out to be early drafts of 4E monsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mearls monster makeovers were excellent.  I used his variant beholder </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20061028a">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20061028a</a></p>
<p>from that series and variations of it quite a bit in a high-level beholder adventure I ran (which also utilized the Complete Guide to Beholders - awesome book).  Changing up antimagic, eliminating facing, and adding that extra initiative turn really helped make it easier to run without taking away from the feel of the creature.  It also completely wrecked my players preconcieved notions of what a beholder could do, and I always enjoy messing with their heads a little bit.  </p>
<p>I think the monster makeover articles provide an insight into Mearl&#8217;s mindset of 4th edition - make monsters easier to run and speed up combat.  I think that extra initiative turn is similar to what they have the new 4E dragon doing from what little I&#8217;ve seen of it.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if these makeovers turned out to be early drafts of 4E monsters.</p>
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		<title>By: loneGM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>loneGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I thought this was going to be about Invisibles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I thought this was going to be about Invisibles.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, what he said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, what he said!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T. Game</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T. Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And choices in a game are, I believe, a fundamental element of the Rule of Fun "

Interesting and Meaningful choices, to be exact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And choices in a game are, I believe, a fundamental element of the Rule of Fun &#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting and Meaningful choices, to be exact!</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay you! +++!</description>
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		<title>By: Graham&#124;ve4grm</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1600</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham&#124;ve4grm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey look!  I can post comments with + signs in them now!

+ + + + + + + + + + + +!!!

Whee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey look!  I can post comments with + signs in them now!</p>
<p>+ + + + + + + + + + + +!!!</p>
<p>Whee!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham&#124;ve4grm</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/02/10/mini-crunch-the-bebilith-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham&#124;ve4grm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which is why, when Chatty brought the issue up to me, my response was "We can try to find the rules, or we can just make better ones anyways."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which is why, when Chatty brought the issue up to me, my response was &#8220;We can try to find the rules, or we can just make better ones anyways.&#8221;</p>
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