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	<title>Comments on: Adventure Prep: Grand Finale, World Saved? Roll Credits!</title>
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	<description>Like Hanging at the Cash Register of your Favorite Game Store</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10308</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The campaign is over.  Players won, world was saved... My game world has become the standard 4e one. 

@Carl: Regardless of our personal differences vis à vis this adventure, the final was absolutely awesome... 

Let us rejoice, we start the 4e introductory module Keep on the Shadowfel in 3 weeks.

I'll put up the final campaign log later today or tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The campaign is over.  Players won, world was saved&#8230; My game world has become the standard 4e one. </p>
<p>@Carl: Regardless of our personal differences vis à vis this adventure, the final was absolutely awesome&#8230; </p>
<p>Let us rejoice, we start the 4e introductory module Keep on the Shadowfel in 3 weeks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put up the final campaign log later today or tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10289</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ergo the Lighter fluid comment in the post!

@ Lamir: I'll tell you all about it after... I'll try to make you feel like you were there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ergo the Lighter fluid comment in the post!</p>
<p>@ Lamir: I&#8217;ll tell you all about it after&#8230; I&#8217;ll try to make you feel like you were there!</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend Mike</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10288</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverend Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full frontal assault plans are always good ideas...

At least in my experience...maybe not the rest of the party, on account of two occasions where this plan led to death for everyone but me, the one who always suggests/enacts such plans...yep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full frontal assault plans are always good ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>At least in my experience&#8230;maybe not the rest of the party, on account of two occasions where this plan led to death for everyone but me, the one who always suggests/enacts such plans&#8230;yep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yan</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10287</link>
		<dc:creator>Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharlocke... Last time we meat that son of a ..... he was level a 18 or something around that. 

I guess that our full frontal assault plan will need to be re-evaluated. Or then again maybe not... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharlocke&#8230; Last time we meat that son of a &#8230;.. he was level a 18 or something around that. </p>
<p>I guess that our full frontal assault plan will need to be re-evaluated. Or then again maybe not&#8230; <img src='http://chattydm.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lanir</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10284</link>
		<dc:creator>Lanir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chatty that sounds similar to some of the best epic endings I've seen or heard of for computer roleplaying games. Only I'm sure it will mean more since your players will be running characters of their own devising with motives they chose. I've never been through a tabletop game like that myself, little envious now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chatty that sounds similar to some of the best epic endings I&#8217;ve seen or heard of for computer roleplaying games. Only I&#8217;m sure it will mean more since your players will be running characters of their own devising with motives they chose. I&#8217;ve never been through a tabletop game like that myself, little envious now. <img src='http://chattydm.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10282</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been running a generic/historical Greyhawk for the last 3 years, mostly because of the Temple of Elemental Evil.  I have my own campaign world, but The Temple was so Greyhawk-focused that moving it would have meant substantial re-writes to the module, which I felt that I'd already had to do just to follow the story from Hommlet to the Crater Ridge Mines and all points in between.  I've attempted it several times with my group, each time resulted in a total party kill.  This last time, I completely gave up on it.  I wanted to love that module and I just couldn't.  So, I know what you mean by an adventure not being tailored to your tastes.

95% of Demonweb took place in the Outer Planes via Sigil so I wouldn't have needed to do any campaign world-driven alterations to make it fit into my own campaign world.  Since we'd just "finished" RTOEE everyone was already in Greyhawk, so I figured I'd focus on this new story over the setting.

Again, I liked the entire book.  I read the thing cover-to-cover before running it and for about an hour before each session I'd review what I thought we could cover that night.  Most times I was ahead of the players by 1 or 2 encounters.  I loved the encounter format.  I did less page-flipping while running that module than I do when running my own stuff.  I didn't need to look up anything in the MM or the DMG, and the first few rounds of tactics were always suggested so I didn't have to do much thinking about what the critters were going to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been running a generic/historical Greyhawk for the last 3 years, mostly because of the Temple of Elemental Evil.  I have my own campaign world, but The Temple was so Greyhawk-focused that moving it would have meant substantial re-writes to the module, which I felt that I&#8217;d already had to do just to follow the story from Hommlet to the Crater Ridge Mines and all points in between.  I&#8217;ve attempted it several times with my group, each time resulted in a total party kill.  This last time, I completely gave up on it.  I wanted to love that module and I just couldn&#8217;t.  So, I know what you mean by an adventure not being tailored to your tastes.</p>
<p>95% of Demonweb took place in the Outer Planes via Sigil so I wouldn&#8217;t have needed to do any campaign world-driven alterations to make it fit into my own campaign world.  Since we&#8217;d just &#8220;finished&#8221; RTOEE everyone was already in Greyhawk, so I figured I&#8217;d focus on this new story over the setting.</p>
<p>Again, I liked the entire book.  I read the thing cover-to-cover before running it and for about an hour before each session I&#8217;d review what I thought we could cover that night.  Most times I was ahead of the players by 1 or 2 encounters.  I loved the encounter format.  I did less page-flipping while running that module than I do when running my own stuff.  I didn&#8217;t need to look up anything in the MM or the DMG, and the first few rounds of tactics were always suggested so I didn&#8217;t have to do much thinking about what the critters were going to do.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10278</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that means that the adventure wasn't tailored to my tastes.

My favorite parts was the Beatslands (which I re-wrote 100%) but I really liked Zelatar as is and am feeling that the Grand Finale will be worth it.

Oddly enough, while players grew tired of it at times, we actually completed Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil (it took us about 2 years)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that means that the adventure wasn&#8217;t tailored to my tastes.</p>
<p>My favorite parts was the Beatslands (which I re-wrote 100%) but I really liked Zelatar as is and am feeling that the Grand Finale will be worth it.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, while players grew tired of it at times, we actually completed Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil (it took us about 2 years)</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10277</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your trouble with Demonweb sounds similar to mine with Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil.  I started that campaign 4 different times and the best success I had was seeing the 4th party to the Crater Ridge Mines and half-way round the the ring, where they all died.  I never could follow the plot.

That said, I had a very different experience with Demonweb than you.  I ran the entire adventure, beginning to end without significant variation from the module.  My players loved (and I mean LOVED) every session.  There was lots of fighting, some NPC role-play interaction, some truly remarkable treasures and a kick-ass, dramatic, mind-blowing finale.

I thought the adventure was nicely laid out.  The encounters clearly designed and the plot interesting.  The finale was especially nice since the demons refuse to work together or help each other, so my players were able to fight just about everyone in the great hall as single or small encounters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your trouble with Demonweb sounds similar to mine with Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil.  I started that campaign 4 different times and the best success I had was seeing the 4th party to the Crater Ridge Mines and half-way round the the ring, where they all died.  I never could follow the plot.</p>
<p>That said, I had a very different experience with Demonweb than you.  I ran the entire adventure, beginning to end without significant variation from the module.  My players loved (and I mean LOVED) every session.  There was lots of fighting, some NPC role-play interaction, some truly remarkable treasures and a kick-ass, dramatic, mind-blowing finale.</p>
<p>I thought the adventure was nicely laid out.  The encounters clearly designed and the plot interesting.  The finale was especially nice since the demons refuse to work together or help each other, so my players were able to fight just about everyone in the great hall as single or small encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: ChattyDM</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10274</link>
		<dc:creator>ChattyDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very tempted to put the Elven Warlock into his 'team' for reasons that will become oblivious tomorrow night...

That does inspire me to create an actual 'in-game' webcomic where we can start exploring the Minis as Actor angle I wanted to do since day one. 

Hmmm... feelings of creation are taking over!  Damn!  I'm at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very tempted to put the Elven Warlock into his &#8216;team&#8217; for reasons that will become oblivious tomorrow night&#8230;</p>
<p>That does inspire me to create an actual &#8216;in-game&#8217; webcomic where we can start exploring the Minis as Actor angle I wanted to do since day one. </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; feelings of creation are taking over!  Damn!  I&#8217;m at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T. Game</title>
		<link>http://chattydm.net/2008/05/07/adventure-prep-grand-finale-world-saved-roll-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-10273</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T. Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Yeenoghu have an overly active libido?

Kermit is going to be making an appearance in my next adventure too (at least the mini is.)

Dave T. Games last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CriticalHits/~3/285708615/" rel="nofollow"&gt;D&#38;D 4e: A Whole New World&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Yeenoghu have an overly active libido?</p>
<p>Kermit is going to be making an appearance in my next adventure too (at least the mini is.)</p>
<p>Dave T. Games last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CriticalHits/~3/285708615/">D&amp;D 4e: A Whole New World</a></p>
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